Graduates ignore career advice at university


Milkround News, 12 October 2009
Graduates ignore career advice at university

Research has revealed the 30,000 graduates who didn’t do enough to find jobs this year probably didn’t use the career advice available to them at university.

Onrec reports the Higher Education Careers (HECSU) servicer found almost two thirds of those graduating this year never visited their careers service, and less than half attended careers events. The importance of career planning in the early stages of university seems to have been overlooked by the class of 09.

The HECSU’s Futuretrack is a major study that surveyed 49,555 students as they were finishing their first year or starting their second year in higher education.

Jane Artess, director of research at HECSU commissioned the research. She says: "Students usually have a pretty rosy outlook when starting university, with their initial focus on making friends, social activities and generally having fun. We’ve surveyed them as they reach the end of their first year to provide insight into their actual experiences; painting a more accurate and rounded picture of university life.

"It’s concerning to hear that despite the importance of early career planning being extensively reported and the wide availability of resources, the majority of students lack a long-term perspective. We can now see those same students entering the workplace; immensely underprepared for a job hunt during a recession."

Professor Kate Purcell from the Institute for Employment Research at the University of Warwick added: "The fact is, despite the efforts made by higher education institutions to encourage students to consider options and explore sources of information and guidance from the outset of their studies, the majority had made little effort to investigate the resources available to them."

When considering further study, fewer than a third of students did not plan any additional training or education after completing of their course expect to go straight into employment on graduation. The study also found that students on a vocational course were more likely to state their experience had reinforced their career plans than those studying general discipline-based academic subjects.

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Christopher H
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Does the HECSU report take into consideration those students who are on sports teams that train three nights a week, and represent their universities twice a week, and go on tour once a month? I was captain of a university sports team, and gained full colours, then quit to do a MSc. Whilst doing my MSc I applied to many organoisations to work with them (for free) as a consultant, I sent out over 100 applications and received 0 replies. If I did not apply for the part time job I work in now before I gained my MSc then I would be out of work, as they admitted to me that I would be over qualified to do the role I am currently doing and there are no responses coming back to me over graduate jobs, as apparently there are many more people out there with experience. This country will have a mounting dole crisis soon to add to its financial woe, as I know half my friends have signed up just this year after graduating.
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Richard M
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The graduate fairs I attended were rather farcical, especially for anyone studying an arts based subject. Ninety percent of the time the representatives at the careers fair would just tell you to 'look on the website' or 'fill in the online application'. I once asked how many graduate places an internship scheme had for the year, the reply was 80. I asked how many university careers fairs this company attended, the reply? Nearly every university in the UK. How many students is that applying for just 80 jobs?
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I agree with Therese that it is pretty cheeky to blame it all on the students. I have graduated this year with an Earth degree and there has been limited guidance as to where to go next. The careers events that I was told would be relevant and I went to were all for engineers, with the companies having little interest in my area. Two friends on my course went to the careers department in order to help and one got told try and become a manager in her part time job she did alongside university and the other got told to sign up to a temping agent. Neither remotely related to what we had studied! Milkround does not even have a section on your personal profile to choose anything geological/ environmental for employers to find you and even though our course had a optional year in industry everyone pulled out of it because of the lack of help and guidance from both lecturers and the careers service in finding anywhere. In my opinion that is extremely poor form on people who are not students, if a university is going to run a course it should make sure that the careers service can provide guidance specific to a future career in the section.
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Nicole K
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So, Generation 'Y' have been 'slapped in the face' (see Milkround's bulletin 02/10/09) and the class of 2009 have ignored their HE careers services. This is harsh. I graduated from Hull University as a mature student this summer and have been thoroughly impressed with many of the younger students. Many of them were confident, polished, some had part time jobs and many seemed to be a well grounded lot. It is hard to find work, let alone suitable work, but it's not hard to be adding skills to your CV. The Careers Service at the University of Hull run a year long e-module on Career Management Skills. You can choose this as part of any degree. It's brillliant. It makes you think; it makes you work; the virtual learning enviroment means everyone has an equal chance to be heard and to succeed. Eventually this type of course will be embedded within all degee subjects. The Careers Service work extremely hard. They were always there when I needed them - impartial, informative, interested in me. There was a workshop for almost everything, real time assessment 'days', live interviews and many other events. If your Careers Service isn't giving you what you want, go and tell them and work with them to make it better. It's what these highly skilled people are trained for. More importantly it's what they want to do. Best wishes to all of you looking for work.
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The thing is, students expect to be spoon fed by their university. I find it insane at the number of students, who claim they 'can't get a part time job' at university. The university is a great place itself, to be getting paid/unpaid work e.g. student radio station, student newspaper, student ambassador, mentor, student union bar etc. These are the same people who then don't use their initiative when it came to career fairs and graduate job hunting, just because the university isn't holding one relevant to your career choice, doesn't mean you can't go other fairs around England, or at another universities. If students stopped wasting their time looking on facebook and youtube, they will definitely get more done with career planning.
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osgwatson
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The careers service at my uni was awful...I don't imagine it's much better elsewhere, word gets around...
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Thomas L
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I am a recent graduate of the University of Leeds and have been fortunate enough to find a good graduate job on a highly regarded graduate scheme.From my own experience and from seeing others at university I do think that not enough people use the careers services available. The service offered by my uni was in no was impersonal and incredibly useful in allowing me to find an undergraduate placement year and also my graduate job. I was so impressed by the information that they provided me with regards to CVs and applications that on many occasions I have passed on the material to friends and family.It is obvious that some recent graduates without jobs, have put effort into finding jobs and are unable to find them, however many people that I know who did not use careers services (the vast majority) are now unemployed. Far too many people do not take advantage of university as being a stepping stone to a career and instead treat it as a (or three!) gap year(s).
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Joseph M
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I remember my career advice inevitably boiled down to:
late invitations to a careers fair or two.
advice to check the prospects website.
an hour introduction to former students who frankly should not have bothered as they had pretty much wasted their lives. We did an amazing American Studies and Spanish course- and we were faced with event planning, a JET scheme, a VISA watchdog, and a bewildered HR manager for Pets at Home. Nothing at all relevant to what we were actually interested in.
By the way, I went to Warwick. And graduted in 2008. And I have a job. No thanks to them.
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Teisha R
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As someone who has just obtained a Masters from LSE and possesses great capacity to succeed in many different types of workforces I think some slack should be given to students who this article claims didn't properly prepare for job hunting during this recession. Anyone who has paid any attention to just how much money and credit was squeezed out of the global market during this financial crisis would have much more sympathy for the pressure that recent graduates are under: not only have most of us never held a proper paying job (in this age where unpaid internships are the emphasis of most employers) but our hard earned degrees are carrying next to no clout in a world where we must compete with people with years more experience who have recently become unemployed. A recession is a recession. This one has shocked the global system just as it as it is undermining the confidence of thousands of extremely intelligent and capable young people (who may or may not have attended events on campus or sat through 15 minute career prep talks given by career advisers). Sorry for the rashness of this comment. I just truly believe blame would be much more appropriately placed on people in much higher positions who could have prevented this global financial calamity. And the recent graduates... have some pity on us.
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It's pretty cheeky to blame it all on the students. Not only is there a recession going on (one cannot get information about jobs that simply are non-existent, not to mention the hundreds of applicants for single vacancies) Most career advice universities give is frankly useless, impersonal and dumb. Swamping students with yet another heap of leaflets, prospects and websites is not the solution to unemployment and a higher education policy that continues to make false promises.
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